S - Dr. Norman, I notice of late
people are beginning to talk of the concepts of Unarius, in a way?
T - Yes, people are beginning to talk about things and concepts that we
have had in our lessons and books for years, and they believe them
to be new ideas. They are toying with ideas and are trying to
explore. You students have a great advantage over these scientists;
you are more than a thousand years ahead of them on that score
because you could take these things up and conceive them and will
learn what they will be living by in the future. Yes, you have all
the advantages; you have more than they have in all of their
universities put together, all their high schools and all their
grade schools. You have it right in those lessons and books of
Unarius. That, in itself, is one of the greatest miracles that
ever happened to this world—to have all that wisdom in those books.
S - I just feel sometimes that I am
getting to understand these things more than even the scientists,
and my, but it is a wonderful feeling.
T - Not only that, but you get tuned
in to the whole creative universe, the entire Infinite Intelligence.
You can tune into it because that is the way these teachings are
constructed; and the books are put together that way so that it
carries all this power with it. It makes it much easier to
understand; and not only that, but regardless of how many
times you read them, you will always find something new every time.
This is unique; you cannot find that in any other books on this
S - Yes, every time I read it, it
keeps changing and adding to, and changing.
T - Yes, that's right because it is
infinite in nature, constructed from Infinite Intelligence.
You simply cannot get it any other place. No, there is
no end to it. Don’t think you will ever come to any end of the
wisdom contained in these various writings, for you will not. This
is your path, your future.
S - I want to understand exactly how
it is with energy, etc.
T - Well, I am going to get into it
even more thoroughly in some book in the future. It is like the
electricity that comes over the wires; in the generator you have two
polarities here, so by turning a rotator that is wired a certain
way, it creates a field of force between them and it changes these
polarities back and forth from positive to negative. It is these
positive and negative impulses that travel along the wire to make an
alternating current; it is the information that it carries.
S - The alternating current?
T - Well, it switches phase; the
energy goes from one side to the other and when it does that, it is
positive or negative phase, yes, like the sine wave. What that means
when it is translated so far as the generator is concerned is that
you are switching from one pole to the other. These, of course, all
follow magnetic lines of force, as they are around the earth. This
is all part of this cosmic hysteresis, but that is a little beyond
the point we are trying to make just now. The thing is, this
electrical impulse that goes up and down carries the information.
Your electric clock goes by that information. It rotates at a
certain speed and keeps perfect time because it is synchronized to
the generator in the power house which rotates sixty times per
second and the motor in the clock follows the exact pattern of
thought which the generator is transferring. In other words, it,
too, rotates sixty times per second just the same as does the
generator; it changes the polarities and it is synchronized, locked
to it. You are synchronized to thousands of things out here in the
outside world. For instance, looking at the garment over here that
just fell down, what happens? You synchronize and lock into that; it
is something that is familiar to you. You have had that experience
before so you have the wave forms in your psychic anatomy and you
can lock into it. Everything you see is a transference of energy
wave forms that lock that—whatever it may be—into you as objectivism
into your consciousness.
S - You mean it is like two
transformers of wires; when energy rotates from one, it
automatically oscillates into the other?
T – That’s exactly the same
principle, just like the electric clock I spoke of, for they have a
little coil of wire in the clock and a rotor and an armature, and it
rotates just as does the generator.
S - These thoughts you are now
speaking, they are going to me?
T - That’s right. I have generated certain energy that you cannot hear
which is going into your psychic anatomy but is inaudible, for this
will transcend you to the point where you can understand it better.
That is a little secret that we old Boys have that the Pro’s in the
colleges do not have because we can paint the picture for you, in a
sense of the word; it becomes much easier for you to understand.
S - And these words from you then
become a part of me?
T - That’s right.
S - And will they always be attuned
T - Yes, they will oscillate in your
psychic anatomy forever! Not only that, but if you tune in to
that—if you know how to tune into this particular thing—it can
assume an endless variety of forms of consciousness. It does
not necessarily have to be just these words because it is
intelligent. Through harmonics it can tune you in to
anything in the universe, or the Infinite. That’s right. Yes, we old
Boys know all these secrets and that’s why we come to the
earth to try and help people who get into these thresholds where
they want something beyond this world, or to learn how to sustain
life in other worlds; and when they get fed up and sick and tired of
all these materialisms, then we are the ones who present it to them
in a scientific way—and a way which can he verified by every manner
and means possible and can be demonstrated in your own way.
You can have your own miracles; you
can see your own consciousness enlarge to a point where the next
life in the higher worlds is not only possible but it is feasible;
it becomes a reality to you—worlds where you can live without your
physical body. I live without my physical body all the time, or at
least most of the time. I could not live with it very long, only as
a com-promise. I have to operate my physical body entirely
differently than you do yours. Mine is like when they manipulate
these puppets on a string, more or less after a fashion. I am
operating it by remote control; like the robot, I am twisting the
dials and sending the impulses into it. That is the reason why I
could not do what you did out there using so much physical strength
when you tossed those huge boxes of books about like they were
empty. There is no necessity for me to have this physical
strength because I live beyond that. It is very necessary to you;
you have enjoyment with it and it is the level upon which you, at
the present, function. To me, I could take it or leave it;
it would make no difference one way or the other. That’s the
difference between being on the emotional plane or not being on the
emotional plane. I have a great many other things that take the
place of that. I am cosmically attuned. I can do many things
with the mind and live in many places and areas that are not
possible for you to live in yet until you develop this
consciousness, so therefore, you have to have this libido; this is
your drive to keep you living here on this earth. Yours is
just as necessary to you as mine is to me. We do not get
emotional—who is better or who is worse or any such thing—it
is just the same as the sparrow that falls by the wayside. We know
all of these things in consciousness; they all have a place in
We would not do like these colored
people are doing, forcing themselves on others and into conditions
and into society with which they are unfamiliar and increasing a lot
of strain, not only on themselves but also, upon people who do not
want them—people who cannot see these things as we do. To me it is
absolutely immaterial; it is irrelevant. People who do not
want me around, I go and find another place; I’d not try and force
myself onto them simply because it was legal to do so. When
you begin to understand humanity and the position on the scale of
evolution in which people are, then of course, there would not be
all this squabbling and fighting.
People would live differently
if they knew these principles of evolution.
Any time that you institute a system or government which is based or
predicated upon things of equality, you are going to get into
squabbles; and yet, what else can they do? There really isn’t
anything else or compromise because the whole psychology of life is
based on the survival of the fittest which mandates an equality with
everyone else. It is a personal drive with everybody in the world
today that he is at least equal to everybody else. It is the old rat
race, keeping up with the Joneses; if they cannot do that, then they
are very unhappy. And by the time they get to where they think they
are equal with everyone else, then they are very unhappy until they
get a little power over them and rule them and inflict their unrest,
their own dissatisfaction, their own emotionalism onto the other
people. That’s the reason we have these things; so we have political
leaders; we have priests in churches and a great many other things
because there are the values of life that people have gone through
in their evolution to this particular point in their life. But some
day it is going to have to pass because there is always a forward
motion; you are either going forward or you are going backward.
The present here is either a
combination of the past or it has to be a combination of the future.
People in this world cannot live by the future because they do not
know what the future is.
All they are doing is going back into their past and trying to make
their future out of their past, which is silly and absolutely
impossible because in the first place, the future had already been
created infinitely. They can’t do anything about it; they can’t
change it; they do not have the intelligence to look forward into
the future and visualize through their consciousness that all or
everything that they are, is the future. That is what Jesus
meant when He taught “finding the Kingdom of Heaven Within”, and
when you can visualize the kind of future you want and make it a
tangible reality in your life, then you have achieved the kingdom.